17 remington vs 17 hornet

17 Remington is the 222 Mag necked down with shoulder bumped back. Fireball. v -max 4 coyote DRT ( dead right there ) no pass thru 1 fox couple exit holes need sewn / not as bad as 17 holes You hit bone get out the needle. My handloads in the .17 Hornet get around 3800, but with the 20-grain V-Max, which holds on to velocity better than the 17-grain bullets in the HMR. Log in to see fewer ads Considering each of these for my next rifle purchase. If it were me I would make a straight 17 Remington or a 17-204 which is about the same as the 17 Rem for the most part. out of the rem and the 17 hornet i would pick the rem. The Hornet ammo—available from Hornady and Federal—runs between $0.70 and $0.90 per round, while the .17 Remington ammo—available from Remington and Nosler—costs about $1.70 per round. Fireball VS .17 Remington Just curious about my options. The .17 is not as quiet as the Hornet and adds the additional complication of requiring .17 caliber bullets and cleaning rods which are not always easy to find. My averages for each are, WSR, 3672fps, CCI-400, 3676fps and Rem 6 1/2, 3659fps. We now had .17 caliber varmint cartridges that could be compared to the .22 Hornet, .22-250 and .220 Swift; three of the four major velocity niches occupied by established centerfire .22 varmint cartridges. The latest of the SAAMI standardized centerfire .17's is the .17 Hornet, designed and introduced by Hornady. The .17 Hornet is a .17 caliber centerfire rifle cartridge originally offered as a "wildcat cartridge" developed by P.O. I do believe the 17 hornet will not be as hard on barrels as the 204! Same C.O.L. Ackley in the early 1950s. I liked it so much that I bought a 700 VS and had it rebarreled to a .17 Rem with an HS-Precision barrel. Kudos to Hornady for recognizing the potential of the design, and for bringing it to the masses. Im looking at CZ 527s and just cannot make up my mind. I myself have never fired a 17 Rem.. The 17 Rem is a heck of a little round IF and only IF you reload! The easy rimfire is the HMR, partly because ammo is so available, and partly because the A17 ammo in a bolt rifle comes pretty close to .17 WSM ballistics. Although as most people in this world I am a little bias as toward my own. I’ve used it for foxes and coyotes here in the northeast, and it’s proven itself on a hot prairie dog town. This short cartridge was initially chambered in Remington’s XP-100 bolt-action single-shot handgun. We've got you covered.• 7mm RUM vs. .300 RUM• .308 Winchester vs. 7mm-08 Remington• 6.5 Creedmoor vs. .260 Remington• .303 British vs. 8x57 Mauser• .30-06 Springfield vs. All Other .30s• .17 HMR vs. .17 WSM• .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express• 350 Legend vs. .35 Remington• .280 Ackley Improved vs. 7mm Rem. I can get dies for both, brass is easy for the .17 Rem when .223 cases are around. But if you really want a 17 and want to kill coyote consistently I would stick with the 17 Fireball or 17 Rem. Fireball. Lower cost and comparable quality to the 17 Fireball and 223 Rem. The 17 Rem is a heck of a little round IF and only IF you reload! the 25 vmax has a much better bc then any hornet bullet. Being rimfire, and therefore virtually un-reloadable, the cartridges are a one-and-done proposition. Let’s take a look at the .17 Remington and the .17 Hornet and compare and contrast their attributes. Mag.• .243 Winchester vs. 6mm Remington• 7x57mm Mauser vs. 7mm-08 Remington• .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum• .338 Winchester vs. .375 H&H Magnum• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Between the two, I find the .17 Hornet to be the more efficient, affordable and sensible choice. This short cartridge was initially chambered in Remington’s XP-100 bolt-action single-shot handgun. The relatively new .17 Hornet filled the void perfectly for me. Somehow shooting a round the same diameter as the old pellet gun I grew up shooting feels good. I am having problems with my .17 HMR. The .17 Remington is an excellent varmint round, and the with a drop of just 3.17" at 250 yards this round is great for just that. Wow Your not Hi on the 223 or the 17s, I'm a 17/Hornet shooter from 1960 my first was built on my 1937-M-70 by P.O.Ackley in PA. as the 22 Hornet – uses the existing action Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem… I weighed everything they said, but found myself looking more and more at the .17 Remington. Log in. 17-223 IS NOT a 17 Remington! Owning a .17-caliber rifle comes with its own set of challenges (a specialty cleaning rod must be ordered, and it’s very easy to wedge a patch in the bore), but among the centerfire choices, including the .17 Fireball, I like the .17 Hornet. powered by 17… vs. .300 Win. Looking at the ballistics, the 17 Rem. For smaller sized game, the little 17 Hornet is one of the most fun little guns I own. yes it uses more powder. I like the 17 Hornet but do not really call it my coyote gun but would use it if under 100 yds. And having a 17 Hornet for the longer shots make sense. Tip Lead Free bullets had an average velocity of 2752 f.p.s. Basically just a fun toy for plinking paper. An accurate .17 WSM is a good choice too, but still not anything like a .17 Hornet for longer shots. and only 1 load for the 17 Rem. Remington doesn't even chamber a rifle for the 17 Rem. Hunting Ammunition : Best Bullet For Your Game Without Destroying It. Is it more accurate? Researched both calibers very well with balistics and reloading. Dennis I have both the 204 and 17 hornet and believe you are correct. Last fall, my dad brought his new Savage M25 to Afognak, and after taking a few foxes with it, I knew I had to have one. I've owned every type of 17,out there I stop reloading when Hornady & Remington came out with loaded rounds.FYI 17/Hornet Ammo is cheaper then 17WSM. Somehow shooting a round the same diameter as the old pellet gun I grew up shooting feels good. I have been thinking about buying a Savage 12VBSS in 223 Remington and rebarrel it to either 17 Rem or 222 Rem. But I often see more simularity's between my 22 Hornet and 223 Rem. 22 Hornet drops 5.8" and is blown off target by 7" in a meagre 5 MPH cross wind The 17 Hornet - drops only 2" and drifts 2.8" in comparison. The AccuTrigger is crisp, breaking cleanly at 1.134kgs and recoil is too light to be felt which results in the rifle sitting steady on a rest with no perceptible movement. It’s a bonified 350-yard coyote cartridge that’s currently chambered for Savage’s Model 25 bolt action . I did a primer test with .17 Hornet yesterday. The 20-grain bullet can be pushed to over 4200 fps, and the 25-grain bullet breaks the 4000 fps mark, as well. The .17 Remington Fireball introduced a few years ago is a somewhat larger edition of the .17 Hornet, but the Fireball is less than trendy. P.O. 17 Remington is the 222 Mag necked down with shoulder bumped back. Same C.O.L. Fireball VS .17 Remington Just curious about my options. I have a .17 HMR and I love it. I like the Hornet a lot but for practical handling and varmit blasting, the .204 s hard to beat with its .222 Mag case and .204 bore which is much easier to clean and manage than the .177. Shop Great Deals for .17 Hornet in our Rifles Department | Sportsman's Guide If it were me I would make a straight 17 Remington or a 17-204 which is about the same as the 17 Rem for the most part. The small bore fouls easily, and you can see accuracy degrade in as little as ten shots in certain rifles, but they are a death ray on varmints and predators. I don't use magnum primers because I believe they actually degraded accuracy in my loads. Looking at the 2 calibers mostly for a short range varmint rifle, 100 - 150 yds max. They said the 17 Hornet is on the watch list and if they get enough response (emails preferred) from customers wanting one they will build it. Others brought 22-250's and one had a 22-250 AI besides their 223's. Mag. I'd combine one of the rimfires with a .17 Hornet. The muzzle velocities generated by the .17 Hornet run considerably slower than the .17 Remington—3650 fps for the 20-grain load, and 3870 fps for the lighter 15.5-grain NTX load from Hornady—yet the pressures, barrel wear and fouling are also less than those associated with the larger-cased .17 Remington. Wow Your not Hi on the 223 or the 17s, I'm a 17/Hornet shooter from 1960 my first was built on my 1937-M-70 by P.O.Ackley in PA. My test were between CCI 400, WSR and Remington 6 1/2. I have a .17 HMR and I love it. .17 Hornet This .17-caliber version of P.O. Last year, on our week long treck, I took a 204 Ruger, two 223's, two 6mm Remingtons, and for the fun of it a 375 H&H AI and and scoped Ruger Super Blackhawk in 44 Mag. The 17WSM I have seen work over prairie dogs was impressive but the 17HMR is a much better choice for a rimfire rifle. vs. .458 Lott• 7mm Rem. Ackley’s .22 Hornet was introduced by Hornady in 2011, likely to compete with Remington’s Fireball . The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 WSM Winchester Super Magnum vs .22 Hornet ammo rounds. 17 Mach IV vs. the 17 Remington, in RifleMagazine.com. Werfen wir einen Blick auf die .17 Remington und die .17 Hornet und vergleichen und vergleichen wir ihre Eigenschaften. Some of the newer CZ's have a pretty rough action from the factory. With a 23-degree shoulder and a case length of 1.796 inches—the .223 Remington uses a 1.760-inch-long case—the .17 Remington often has a powder charge heavier than its bullet. Very nice caliber for varmints! The 17 Remington Fireball, based on the classic .221 Remington Fireball case, is an extremely well balanced cartridge that provides laser-flat trajectory, with match grade accuracy, all in a compact package that does not require excessive maintenance and won’t burn out barrels. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. 17 Hornet vs 17 Fireball - posted in Varminter Magazine - Main Hunting Discussion Forum: I am simply curious as to the opinions of others. Friday, December 20, 2019. Massively better performance. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Remington Model 700 American Hunter Rifle Project, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, .450 Nitro Express vs. .470 Nitro Express, .358 Winchester vs. .350 Remington Magnum, .25-06 Remington vs. .257 Weatherby Magnum, Large Mountain Lion Spotted Outside Dallas, Head to Head: .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield, Head to Head: .444 Marlin vs. .45-70 Government, 2020 National Rifle Association of America. the 17 rem is more then 300 fps over the hornet. There have been many other variants of the .17 calibre. Interestingly, the impact energy also favours the 17 cal The 17 cal delivers 290 FPE compared to the 22 Hornets - 196 FPE 17 HMR VS 17 HORNET I like the 17 Hornet it does something crazy like 3600 fps Any input on ether the 17 HMR or the 17 HORNET Thanks….. I am looking at a h&r .22-250 with a heavy barrel and the remmy 700 LVSF in the 17. but they chamber 8 rifles in the 17 Rem. But, within 350 yards or so, the .17 Remington makes a great varmint and predator cartridge, as the frangible bullets make very small holes in a furbearer’s pelt—and usually don’t exit—yet have enough energy and a flat enough trajectory to place shots accurately on woodchucks and prairie dogs, creating that famous red mist. Either gun will just be a range toy or rare varminting. Stuff just dies and you can barely tell they were hit with anything. V-max - 5 fox - 4 of the 5 need sewn from large exit holes 1 coyote chest shot at 100 yards spun & run no recovery 204 Ruger 40 gr. I have both, 17 Hornet and 204, both are CZ 527 Varmint models. by Philip Massaro - Mag. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? That said, owning both and shooting both is sort of like owning and shooting a 243 and a 6 mm !! I also had one of the 700 Classics, just to try out. I am considering either the .17 Remington or a .17 Hornet. In general I'd say there's at least 100 yards difference in consistent performance, maybe more like 150. There are smaller bore diameters, but you’ll have to look long and hard to find them. The new issue of Rifle has a review of the CZ527 for 22 hornet and they mention ed that the 527 can be had in a 222 remington. Lower cost and comparable quality to the 17 Fireball and 223 Rem. as the 22 Hornet (uses the existing action). The .17 Remington Fireball was created in 2007 by Remington Arms Company as a response to the popular wildcat round, the .17 Mach IV.Factory loads drive a 20 grain (1.3 g) bullet around 4,000 ft/s (1,219 m/s). Famed gunsmith and cartridge developer P.O. 17 Remington Rifle Cartridge by Nosler Inc. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: Based on a necked down 223 Remington case, it is generally chambered in bolt rifles, but could be used in AR platforms. Thanks It is based on the .223 Remington case necked down to .172 in (4.37 mm), with the shoulder moved back. I took some time yesterday and called Remington. Some would mention the .22-250 as the ultimate long range predator gun. This was with 9.3 gr of Lil'Gun with 20 gr VMax and Hornady brass. Mag. Die Hard Member Registered: 03/07/13 Posts: 528 Loc: Freestone county Texas I own both CZ's and Savage's and to me yes the CZ is a much more quality rifle. #2808223 - 03/04/15 04:14 PM Re: .17 Hornet vs .17 Remington [Re: TheWolf57] AubreyD. I have both, 17 Hornet and 204, both are CZ 527 Varmint models. I have owned two of them. .17 Hornet calibre review. Werfen wir einen Blick auf die .17 Remington und die .17 Hornet und vergleichen und vergleichen wir ihre Eigenschaften. .17 Remington or .17 Hornet. My collection will always include a .223 and .308 rifle. The .223 Rem. driving a 55gn bullet at 3200fps sighted-in 50mm high at 100 metres for a 200 metre zero, shows 25mm more drop at 250 than the .17 Hornet but retains 565 ft/lb of energy which gives it over twice as much hitting power as the .17 Hornet at that distance. I got a friend that is a coyote hunting machine and he swears by the 204. T he .17 Hornet is the quintessential mid-range varmint cartridge—regardless if you’re hunting east or west of the Mississippi River. Trajectory comparable to a traditional 55 gr 223 Rem, but the felt recoil of a 22 WMR. Either gun will just be a range toy or rare varminting. The slight five-degree shoulder of the .22 Hornet was radically steepened to a 25-degree shoulder and blown-out to increase case capacity. You will find the smallest commercial cartridges available are the .17-inch bores, and while they’ve been around exactly as long as I have, the shooting public seems to have an on-again-off-again relationship with the .17s. Perhaps the greatest buzz from shooting the .17 Hornet is the almost total absence of recoil. Some of the newer CZ's have a pretty rough action from the factory. Being able to use good Lapua brass is another plus. .17 Remington Fireball, in HuntingMag.com. Had I had any idea the 17 Hornet was coming (even if the 17AH is 200 FPS faster) I would have done the 17 Hornet instead. The .17 Remington was introduced in 1971 by Remington Arms Company for their model 700 rifles.. I have a thing for small bore rifles. It is nice, almost silent, and laser accurate at the ranges I use it for, but it just does not have the stopping power to take coyotes reliably. I have been thinking about buying a Savage 12VBSS in 223 Remington and rebarrel it to either 17 Rem or 222 Rem. as the 22 Hornet (uses the existing action). Ackley who used it on much larger game, but such use is not typical.

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